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 Posted: Thu Jun 3rd, 2010 09:22 am
   
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Thanks Martin. I think I tried increasing it to a bigger size, but nothing happened other than the white screen of death instead of the size warning message.

I assumed it needed the lib.php file changed to work, as you very helpfully pointed out. But it couldn't be changed on my board for some reason.

The move will be to a different software package that won't have the same gallery add-on, will it? Without the gallery option, I'm not sure where that leaves the photos already posted. (Unless the program will work with another package with no changes?)

I'm not well versed in the tech end, I don't use the ftp or cpanel options much, which is the main reason I need to be with a more common forum package. I'll have a bigger forum tech pool.

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 Posted: Thu Jun 3rd, 2010 10:01 am
   
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snooze wrote: I'm not well versed in the tech end, I don't use the ftp or cpanel options much, which is the main reason I need to be with a more common forum package. I'll have a bigger forum tech pool.
Hi snooze,

I very much doubt you will find anything better, easier to use, or better supported than UltraBB. I've recently been involved with one of the so-called market leaders, IP.Board, and compared with UltraBB it is utter *******!

If you have unauthorised mods (what are they?) it's unreasonable to expect Data 1 to sort it out for you for free. But they may be willing to have a look if you pay. :)

That would be very much less cost and hassle than trying to move everything to a different board package.


The move will be to a different software package that won't have the same gallery add-on, will it? Without the gallery option, I'm not sure where that leaves the photos already posted. (Unless the program will work with another package with no changes?)
David's gallery add-on won't work with any other package.

But you could leave the gallery folder structure as it is after moving them all to a different host, and hot-link to the images from a different package. You may find a gallery function on some other package which will display hot-linked images in addition to uploaded ones.

If you host the other package on your existing Data 1 web space, you could do that and not need to move them.

regards,

Martin.

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 Posted: Thu Jun 3rd, 2010 03:30 pm
   
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I agree with all that Martin has said about Data1 and the forum software. Where else are going to get almost instant attention from the people who are actually writing the code, and take a pride in their ever growing reputation.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 4th, 2010 02:00 am
   
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Martin, I've always been willing to pay for enhancements so I'm certainly willing to pay for the maintenance of those enhancements, but that doesn't appear to be an option.

We have a sig control feature (it allows various levels of paid sponsors to get different sized sigs, and that supports the board financially), we have some search engine code (to make up for the problems with the stock version), and something that allows link code in a custom field on the side profile. (A 'Blog' feature could replace this).

I have no idea if any of these involve the lib.php.

Its nothing against the people, Jim and David have both been awesome, and you've also been helpful, but this is a small and very part time proprietary endeavor. It's great for a small, grass roots personal service board, unfortunately my board requires features not offered and Jim's model doesn't allow for expansion or for outside assistance.

UltraBB isn't growing, it hasn't been updated and even this board is almost dead. It's not about to take on IPB, phpBB or vBulletin. It couldn't be tested with mobile programs because the developer doesn't have an iPhone. It still doesn't even support Google Chrome.

But that's not necessarily bad. Jim has said himself he's happier hosting and that his family situation doesn't allow for the software to be any more of a priority, I think he'd rather keep it as a cozy, personal service board, and that's great for guys like Robert.

But for me its playing out just like WowBB, with way nicer and more supportive people, but with even less features. At least modifications were available for a price at WowBB.

I don't think Jim will leave anybody stranded like WowBB did, but its also painfully apparent it's not going to have the time and resources invested in it for to compete.

For most people here, it doesn't have to, but I have a large board, I need the features, and I don't need to lose the few I already have.

Martin, I've started a new board that oddly enough will be competing directly with an IP board that seems to have tons of features, including a search engine with a whole page of search options, ditto with profiles, so I really don't know what the down side is. But we all have different needs.

I haven't had a chance to look at it too closely, but I think we're looking at Simple Machines, where a lot of people are developing add-ons and can write code, and it seems to have some semblance of a converter for WowBB at least. (None exist anywhere for UltraBB).

I hope Jim will be gracious and help us make the move, or provide assistance to whoever we can find to help with a conversion -- if we can do it without losing our six years of effort.

With small companies like this, its hard to find converters or people who can do the work -- which ultimately may be the only reason I'd start strongly recommending big companies. Normally I support the small 'homey' operations like this one.

But not if the nature of the beast ends up inadvertently (or not) holding you captive.

The choices are fix the current board (which appears impossible), leave hopefully with our data and features intact, or just shut it down. Its been unworkable to the point the latter is under discussion. And that's a pretty drastic option. :(

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 Posted: Fri Jun 4th, 2010 03:23 am
   
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I know someone with a SMF converter, who shares most of your points of view. Or they claim to have one anyway and openly advertise it. I will be happy to send you her way, she will treat you like a royal queen and probably do hundreds of dollars of work for you for nothing just for the fact that you are leaving UltraBB. PM me for details and thank you for even briefly mentioning that I might be honorable in some way.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 4th, 2010 06:31 am
   
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snooze wrote:
UltraBB isn't growing, it hasn't been updated and even this board is almost dead. It's not about to take on IPB, phpBB or vBulletin. It couldn't be tested with mobile programs because the developer doesn't have an iPhone. It still doesn't even support Google Chrome.

I hadnt realized owning an iPhone was mandatory when it comes to coding. :twich:

The board may seem dead because hardly anyone is having any problems with their boards. I dont know, but I kind of think thats a good thing?

As for updates, I know v1.19 is currently being worked on and may even be in the early stages of testing. UltraBB has always had the reputation of doing extensive testing before releasing any updates.

Im sorry to see you go but I wish you the best of luck in finding a company that best suits your needs :)

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 Posted: Fri Jun 4th, 2010 09:26 am
   
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snooze wrote: Martin, I've started a new board that oddly enough will be competing directly with an IP board that seems to have tons of features, including a search engine with a whole page of search options, ditto with profiles, so I really don't know what the down side is.
But have you tried using those search options?

IPS have said they are re-writing the entire search function because of what they describe as "emphatic feedback" (!) from users.

There are lots of bugs in IPB, it's a nightmare to administer or make changes, it clobbers your server practically out of existence, and it's lacking 3 features of UltraBB which are essential for me:

1. No view single post feature.

2. Watched forums does not include your own posts, quoted text, or links, so its usefulness as an archiving function or email-list replacement is minimal.

3. The video embedding functions are much poorer than on UltraBB -- no ability to set video sizes, no ability to play swf, flv, wmv, mov files directly.

Also there is a distinct difference in the type of user support response:

IPS: "This is not a known issue, but we will look into it."

Jim: "I'm on the case now".

My feeling is that though the grass may look greener elsewhere, you will end up regretting leaving Data 1. UltraBB may not have everything, but it does exactly what it says on the can -- with superb customer support from Jim, Di and David.

p.s. here you go -- a Jing video embedded in UltraBB, and set to the exact size I require (720 x 586). Try doing that on your chosen board software:


 
(It may take a few seconds to load, mouse-over for controls.)

regards,

Martin.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 4th, 2010 12:36 pm
   
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but I have a large board, I need the features, and I don't need to lose the few I already have.

Most forums I have used would not support outside mods, you had to go back to the person who created it. 

Wingnutter has a larger board with 29,527 members and he doesn't have any problems. 

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 Posted: Fri Jun 4th, 2010 01:54 pm
   
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Mag wrote: but I have a large board, I need the features, and I don't need to lose the few I already have.

Most forums I have used would not support outside mods, you had to go back to the person who created it. 

Wingnutter has a larger board with 29,527 members and he doesn't have any problems. 


i agree 1000%


My husband works for a major pharmaceutical software company as a programmer..
They do not support any outside coding...
If you do something to change anything you do not get support !

Jim Di and David go above and beyond helping all of us...

I think 'snoozer' you are off base...

the reason UltraBB boards are not busy is because we do not have problems..


all i can say is ...'good luck' and i hope you find a company that will assist you the way you want ..
but i highly doubt it !!!



Jim Di and David...
My board my not be a huge one ..but i do want to say thank you for 'everything' you do !!!



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 Posted: Fri Jun 4th, 2010 03:08 pm
   
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Though I appreciate the support and upholding of the spirit and integrity of our entity here I don't think it's necessary to beat on this, it's kind of a closed case now. It is impossible to please everyone no matter what business you are in or how you run it. Thank you all, thread closed :)

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